Jerusalem New Moon

The new moon was not seen anywhere near Jerusalem on march 15th as it was very cloudy   the new moon was march 16th 2021

 

I would like to say that having multiple sources for new moon observation is a good idea, I just read this from 2014

While presenting himself as Karaite, Nehemiah departs from the rules on sighting the new moon.  He does not sight the new moon solely in Jerusalem as the temple system requires, but accepts sightings across the Middle East in an apparent attempt to harmonize the visible new moon sightings with the Rabbinic Calendar.

On Monday April 4, 2011 Nehemiah published a report of a new moon being sighted by him from Egypt and then another report by Magdi Shamuel from Ashdod.  Persons in the Israeli New Moon Society determined these reports were not valid, as indeed they were not; not being made in the vicinity of Jerusalem and for other reasons.

Nehemiah routinely reports sightings and declares the sanctification of months; based on sightings far from Jerusalem.  Such sightings are invalid!

Even this year [2014] he has wrongly declared the new year a day early based on telescopic sightings far from Jerusalem.  When I asked about this, Dev replied that signal fires were used to report the sightings to the Sanhedrin.  Of course this is utterly false, as the witnesses were required to report personally to the Sanhedrin to be questioned.

It was after the witnesses had been questioned in person by the Sanhedrin that the Month was declared by that court; and only then were the signal fires lit [fires were lit from hill to hill across the land] to signal the decision of the Sanhedrin!

Obviously scholars like Nehemiah and his wife Dev would have known this, so why try to deceive me?  Obviously they have some agenda in trying to reconcile the sightings with the Rabbinic Calendar.

Because they ignore the rule of sighting at Jerusalem alone, and because they have approved telescopic sightings as genuine; Nehemiah Gordon and his observers lack any credibility as genuine observers of the first visible light of the new moon.

 

 

 

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  1. If the new moon could not be seen from Jerusalem can it be our new moon 🌙?

  2. Isaiah 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain [the temple] of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

    Keeping the new moon from Jerusalem means we can keep the High days on the same days no matter where we are, So if there was cloud cover at place x and then you flew to Israel or anywhere your still keeping the high days on the same days.

  3. This is not your dad did not teach this as you know. This does not make sense to us. With all due respect to you David.

  4. A quote from https://theshininglight.info/101-introduction-and-overview-of-the-biblical-festivals/
    An Overview of the Biblical Festivals and Appointed Times
    The Appointed Times

    The New Moons are not Holy Days; they are Appointed Times [like Passover and Wave Offering Sunday] to acknowledge God as Creator with worship [Bible Studies] and rejoicing before Him and to sanctify and dedicate each new month to God.

    Work may be done on New Moons but we are also commanded to worship God. This is best done by a Bible Study as was customary in ancient Israel (2 Kings 4:23)

    The first visible light of the New Moon as seen from Jerusalem; Sets Apart and Consecrates, each biblical month; which is essential for correctly dating the observance of all other Biblical Appointed Times, Holy Days and Festivals on their proper God commanded dates. The current Rabbinic Molad Calendar is based on darkness and not the Biblical LIGHT and is full of other contrary to scriptural rules; any Rabbi will tell you that it is not scriptural.

    The Biblical Calendar and New Moons are fully explained in “The Biblical Sabbath and Calendar” course.

  5. David we are not on the same page apparently,and that is my fault. I am saying the new moon was not seen from Jerusalem.Am I wrong or did James teach that the new moon had to be seen in the vicinity of Jerusalem. If the new moon was seen in Central Arava could that be seen at Jerusalem?

  6. From https://theshininglight.info/determining-gods-new-year/
    Personally I think that Christ will restore the proper cycles, but we live in the now and we need to learn and exercise wisdom.

    3) If the new moon is calculated to be visible and it is NOT seen at Jerusalem due to a lack of witnesses in that city, cloud cover or other adverse conditions; but it is seen in the land or within a short distance east of the land by at least two witnesses; it is evident that the moon could have been seen at Jerusalem based on the two local observation witnesses and calculation and the new month should be consecrated.

    4) If the moon is calculated to be visible at the end of 29 days and it is NOT seen by witnesses [subject to statement #3] then it should NOT be consecrated, and should be delayed to the next day.

    5) If the moon is calculated to be visible at the end of 30 days it should be consecrated regardless of whether it is seen or not; since the moon cycle is 29 1/2 days and no month may be longer than 30 days.

  7. To Jimmy Law and all others. Please comment on what you think AND feel about the following proposal; a modification of the default rule. A small team of us have been studying this problem for a couple of years.

    I posed a question to James, a couple of years ago, and it went like this. “If clouds covered Jerusalem for 8 consecutive months, then this would mean that 8 consecutive months would contain the full 30 days in length. When the new moon is finally sighted for the 9th month, that month would only contain 26 days in length. The 8th month would miss the true new moon by about 4 days. That is actually worse that the calculated Hebrew Calendar, in our present era. The 30-day months would be artificially too long. Is this what God intended for the way priests were to proclaim the beginning of the 6th, 7th, and 8th months?”

    James told me that he honestly didn’t know what to do in this more extreme scenario. As most know, he did state that there could be an occasional 28-day month, but did not address the scenario of a 26-day month.

    If we take an honest look at what we are doing, aren’t we using cloud-cover as the sign to postpone the beginning of the month? We should have been able to easily see the new moon just after the 29th day of the previous month. We know this because of predetermined calculations showing that the new moon should be seen at a specific elevation in the sky, in a specific direction, at a specific time of the evening. But, we do not use the moon to determine the first day of the month, with the presence of cloud cover. We use the clouds as our sign to postpone the beginning of the month! If we were to continue to use the moon as the sign, even when clouds prevented a sighting, then we should place the first day of the month on the evening of when the new moon should be sighted, as if there were no cloud cover.

    We should not postpone the beginning of the month by one day, simply because of cloud cover. The moon is our sign and nothing else. In essence, we are doing the same thing as the calculated Hebrew Calendar — postponing the beginning of the year because it falls on Sunday, Wednesday, or Friday. If the new moon is in the sky, above the clouds, then that should be the first day of the month.

    Well, some will say, “That is just another calculated calendar.” To which I say, “What difference does that make? It is still based on the observation of the new moon from Jerusalem! It would be far more accurate and far more universal as the Biblical observation calendar. This would eliminate all 28-day months. It would eliminate the differences between groups that use sightings from anywhere in Israel as opposed to just the Jerusalem locale. If the new moon can be sighted from Jerusalem, that is accepted by all in Israel. The elimination of the one-day postponement rule, because of cloud cover, could unify basically all observation groups, as far as the months are concerned.

    The 30-day default postponement rule is not Biblical and does not use the moon as the sign. Let’s start using ONLY the moon as our sign. Eliminate using cloud cover as our sign to add one more day to the month. Use only Jerusalem as the reference point, which will be accepted by all who use anywhere-in-Israel. This would eliminate all 28-day months and would align the observation calendar more closely to the true lunar cycle. This approach could also unify all observation groups on the months.

  8. There is a very high probability that the hypothetical situation you describe will never happen before Christ comes, I don’t think that justifies changing the law to observe the moon for setting months we are not setting the month by observation if no one sees the moon.

  9. I think your right Jimmy Arava is too far from Jerusalem.

  10. According to the guidelines that James last used, I also agree that Arava is too far south and even a little westward.

    I also do not think my scenario of eight consecutive cloudy months is very likely, but I do believe it IS likely there will be great political, economic, and military unrest to the point that we will not receive sighting reports. If there are no reports, at all, then the strictly-observation calendar situation will be chaos. Would not the proposed guidelines be valuable for a unified approach with no sightings at all?

    Please feel free to comment. The more input to a problem the better the solution.

  11. Regarding sighting or not sighting the new moon. I am wondering if any of you watch early morning to see if the old moon is in the sky? Then you will be able to see what day conjunction is, then potentially sight the moon that evening. Mind you it could be a two day conjunction as well.

  12. Getting the correct dates of the feast days has been a problem for the COG for so many years and as a result, many divisions have occurred. Besides the appearance of the moon, some teach that there must be “BARLEY” in Jerusalem during the ULB month. How do you find this information correct or incorrect?
    Brother Geoffrey.
    Nairobi Kenya,
    E. Africa.

  13. Yes the priest would not have made the wavesheaf offering without it and the principle still applies.

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