Job Answers Bildad’s Second Discourse
Job 19:1 Then Job answered and said, 19:2 How long will ye vex my soul, and break me in pieces with words? 19:3 These ten times have ye reproached me: ye are not ashamed that ye make yourselves strange to me.
Job declares that IF he has sinned, his friends have not revealed what the sin is; but have only accused him based on his suffering.
19:4 And be it indeed that I have erred, mine error remaineth with myself [unknown to his friends]
Job lists his sufferings and still he is faithful and relies on God. In spite of all he is suffering, Job does not sin against God. This is a remarkable statement of faith, loyalty and trust in God during inexplicable suffering.
19:5 If indeed ye will magnify yourselves against me, and plead against me my reproach: 19:6 Know now that God hath overthrown me, and hath compassed me with his net.
19:7 Behold, I cry out of wrong, but I am not heard: I cry aloud, but there is no judgment. 19:8 He hath fenced up my way that I cannot pass, and he hath set darkness in my paths.
19:9 He hath stripped me of my glory, and taken the crown from my head. 19:10 He hath destroyed me on every side, and I am gone: and mine hope hath he removed like a tree.
19:11 He hath also kindled his wrath against me, and he counteth me unto him as one of his enemies. 19:12 His troops come together, and raise up their way against me, and encamp round about my tabernacle.
19:13 He hath put my brethren far from me, and mine acquaintance are verily estranged from me. 19:14 My kinsfolk have failed, and my familiar [closest] friends have forgotten me.
19:15 They that dwell in mine house, and my maids, count me for a stranger: I am an alien in their sight. 19:16 I called my servant, and he gave me no answer; I intreated him with my mouth.
19:17 My breath is strange to my wife, though I intreated for the children’s sake of mine own body. 19:18 Yea, young children despised me; I arose, and they spake against me. 19:19 All my inward friends abhorred me: and they whom I loved are turned against me.
19:20 My bone cleaveth to my skin and to my flesh, and I am escaped with the skin of my teeth.
19:21 Have pity upon me, have pity upon me, O ye my friends; for the hand of God hath touched me.
19:22 Why do ye persecute me as God, and are not satisfied with my flesh? 19:23 Oh that my words were now written! oh that they were printed in a
book! 19:24 That they were graven with an iron pen and lead in the rock for ever!
Job maintains his trust in God, in spite of all his afflictions
19:25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: 19:26 And though after my skin worms [I die and maggots] destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: 19:27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins [internal organs] be consumed within me.
Job tells his friends to look to their one state with God instead of judging him because he is afflicted, for they shall also face punishment for attacking him in his trials.
19:28 But ye should say, Why persecute we him, seeing the root of the matter is found in me [Job’s friends need to acknowledge that the issue is not in Job but in themselves]? 19:29 Be ye afraid of the sword: for wrath [wrongfully accusing and attacking] bringeth the punishments of the sword, that ye may know there is a judgment.
Hebrews 11 and the faithfulness of the righteous through their sufferings
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 11:2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.
Nineteen hundred years ago Paul spoke of physical things being made from the invisible things; which was confirmed by E=MC2 which means that energy is mass times the speed of light squared or multiplied by itself. The opposite is also true that mass consists of energy. The Creator God who was spirit [pure energy] made matter by converting energy to matter!
Paul understood this by faith; which thing is today confirmed by discovery of the facts. Matter is energy concentrated into matter. Just like ice is a form of water and water is a form of vapor!
11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
That is Abel is dead and yet he is spoken of to this day, and he will be raised up in the resurrection.
11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
How can we obey God if we do not believe that He is? and how can we please God [obey Him] if we do not believe he exists?
11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is [exists], and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, [believed God and] prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world [which would not believe the warnings], and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
This is a lesson, that in the same way; those in the Ekklesia of the called out, who do not believe the warnings and turn to God in sincerity and truth will also be destroyed.
11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles [The Feast of Tabernacles requires that we dwell in temporary shelters to make the very point that if we are called of and faithful to God we are strangers in this evil world] ] with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 11:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God
We are to be focused on the spiritual things of the whole Word of God as Abraham was; and we are to be built on the whole Word of God; which is the Writings, the Prophets and the Apostles [the Holy Scriptures] with Jesus Christ being the Chief Stone of the foundation: All of which were inspired by God!
Abraham believed God and therefore he acted on what God told him to do. To believe God is one thing; to actually act on what God says and to obey him, is something else.
We must believe before we can obey, but if we believe and do not start obeying, there is no sacrifice for your sin and there is no reconciliation with God for us.
As long as we continue to reject living by every Word of God, we can believe all we want and it won’t do us any good at all. We must believe and then we must act on that belief and start doing what God tells us to do.
Our reconciliation with God and our relationship with Him depends upon us keeping His commandments, and one of those commandments is to honor thy father and thy mother.
In order to keep that commandment, we must be willing to do anything that God the Father tells us to do. Was there any law that said Abraham had to move to a different land? Was there any law that told Noah: by law you have to build this ark? No, there wasn’t.
They obeyed the Great Law that says “Honour thy Father and thy mother”, which means that we are to live by EVERY Word of God the Father, not just the codified law.
The law is: Obey God in ALL things. We are obligated by the commandment to do what our Father tells us to do, and He told Abraham to leave that land and He told Noah to build that boat.
We are to obey God our Father in whatever He tells us to do. This concept of obedience goes far beyond just the commandments. Yes, we are to keep all of His commandments but we are also to love Him with all our hearts, to serve Him with all our strength and to try and please Him in every way; and that means doing whatever He says, not just what is codified in some written law; always, always, always, at all times.
11:11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. [Where was there any faith in Sarah regarding this promise? She gave herself to her husband Abraham in her old age, truisting that God would give her a son!] 11:12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.
Out of Sarah and Abraham came a son by God’s promise; out of Abram who was a very old man as “many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore enumerable. Now, if they in their great age had not believed that promise, and not added the works of faith to their belief and had not come together; the promise would have been of no effect! The birth of Isaac was by faith in the promise of God, coupled with the works of faith!
Notice they all DIED: which means that Enoch also died. These all died in faith. Enoch was translated that he should not see death; in other words, he was moved from one place to another so that he would not be murdered or killed for his faith. But later on he died;
11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth
Those who reject worldliness for godliness, are making a clear statement that they are not of this world and that they seek another and godly nation, the Kingdom of God; and if any turn aside from their zeal to keep the whole Word of God, which is the constitution of the Kingdom of God, and go back into worldliness; they are become worldly again.
11:14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 11:15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
And that is what dwelling in tabernacles or temporary structures at the Feast is all about. To teach us that this flesh is temporary and that we are seeking a better promised land; an eternal spiritual future.
It is to remind us that we are temporary sojourners and foreigners in this society and we must be seeking a better society and a better and spiritual Promised Land, which is found in the Kingdom of God. We are really just temporary sojourners in this flesh; and we should all be looking forward to a better and more permanent place to dwell, a change to spirit and the promise of eternal life. Which is the gift of God for all those who sincerely repent, who turn from sin and commit to sin no more, who are reconciled to God the Father and given His Spirit.
Those who endure and overcome may then be given Eternal life in a new spiritual body at the resurrection when they are changed to spirit. However, right now we are living in this flesh, which is temporary, transitory, it will die. It will decay and we need to find a better way, and that better way is offered by God through Jesus Christ.
11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them [the faithful who believe and have the works of faith] a city [The New Jerusalem].
Abraham had received promises that Isaac would be the father of countless descendants yet not understanding the command to kill Isaac with those promises, Abraham obeyed.
11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 11:18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 11:19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.
Figuratively speaking, he received Isaac back from the dead, because he was about to kill him and God delivered Isaac.
11:20 By faith [in God’s promises] Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come. 11:21 By faith [in God’s promises] Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff. 11:22 By faith [in God’s promise that he would bring Israel out of Egypt] Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.
11:23 By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king’s commandment.
11:24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter; 11:25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 11:26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.
Who? Moses esteemed who? Paul showing here that he KNEW that Jesus Christ was the God who was an Husband to Israel under the Mosaic Covenant declares:
By faith in the promise of God, Moses chose to reject Egypt and follow the God of his father Abraham.
11:27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.
Moses obeyed the call of God from the burning bush in Sinai and by faith Moses believed God and killed the Passover in Egypt. It Moses had said I believe and had not had the works of faith in commanding the killing of the lambs; what would have happened to Israel?
11:28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. 11:29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.
What if Joshua had said, I believe you can do it LORD; and then did not demonstrate his faith with the works of faith and did not march around Jericho?
11:30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days.
What if Rahab had not saved the spies and what if she had not tied the scarlet ribbon [a red ribbon like the red blood of the lambs in Egypt, representing being under the protection of the Lamb of God] to her window? have you ever wondered why a scarlet ribbon? The red ribbon was a type of being under the protection of the blood of the Lamb of God!
11:31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
11:32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: 11:33 Who through faith [and the works of faith, doing mighty deeds in obedience to God] subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions.
11:34 Quenched the violence of fire [Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego], escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.
11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: 11:36 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: 11:37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; 11:38 (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
All of these faithful called out over the past 6,000 years, who were FULL of the works of Faith died, and now wait in their graves for the promise of the resurrection to eternal life in the Promised Land of eternity! Yet today, so many of the Ekklesia are afraid to take a stand to question and prove the words of men by God’s Word; afraid to learn and to keep the whole Word of God; afraid to take a stand against the deceivers and idols of men!
11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
Zophar’s Second Discourse
Job’s friends repeatedly and rightly proclaimed the fate of the wicked and Job agrees with them; yet they sin against Job by accusing the righteous, just because he is suffering and being tested by God.
God has allowed Job to be afflicted to TEST his loyalty to, and humility before God and to perfect his character! Not because of any particular sin of Job’s.
Throughout history as it is today, God’s elect face continual testing of their loyalty directly to, and humility before God.
The TEST of Job is a continual TEST for ALL of the “called out” of every generation; perhaps in different ways, but the TEST always boils down to our faithful unshakable loyalty to God.
Zophar answers Job’s rebuke
Job 20:1 Then answered Zophar the Naamathite, and said, 20:2 Therefore do my thoughts cause me to answer, and for this I make haste. 20:3 I have heard the check of my reproach, and the spirit of my understanding causeth me to answer.
Zophar truthfully speaks of the end of the wicked; and again the false assumption is made that just because someone has trials they must be wicked, when the truth is very different. If God is working with us we will have trials to purge us and prune us so that we might bring forth much fruit of godliness.
Neither trials nor blessings are proof of godliness in this life, for Satan persecutes the righteous and blesses the wicked within the limits set by God for our own good.
The sole proof of a good relationship with God is the degree of zeal we have for the practical KEEPING, for OBEDIENCE; to live by every Word of God; which is love personified! We are to be as faithful as faithful Abraham or faithful Job in all our blessings and all OUR TRIALS.
20:4 Knowest thou not this of old, since man was placed upon earth, 20:5 That the triumphing of the wicked is short, and the joy of the hypocrite but for a moment? 20:6 Though his excellency mount up to the heavens, and his head reach unto the clouds; 20:7 Yet he shall perish for ever like his own dung: they which have seen him shall say, Where is he? 20:8 He shall fly away as a dream, and shall not be found: yea, he shall be chased away as a vision of the night.
The wicked who break any of God’s commandments willfully, shall be destroyed by Christ and shall be no more.
20:9 The eye also which saw him shall see him no more; neither shall his place any more behold him. 20:10 His children shall seek to please the poor, and his hands shall restore their goods.
The unrepentant wicked shall be destroyed even if he prospers for a time.
20:11 His bones are full of the sin of his youth, which shall lie down with him in the dust. 20:12 Though wickedness be sweet in his mouth, though he hide it under his tongue; 20:13 Though he spare it, and forsake it not; but keep it still within his mouth: 20:14 Yet his meat [food] in his bowels is turned, it is the gall of asps within him.
Wealth and gain gotten by wickedness shall be taken away from the unrepentant.
20:15 He hath swallowed down riches, and he shall vomit them up again: God shall cast them out of his belly. 20:16 He shall suck the poison of asps: the viper’s tongue shall slay him. 20:17 He shall not see the rivers, the floods, the brooks of honey and butter.
20:18 That which he laboured for shall he restore [give back], and shall not swallow it down: according to his substance shall the restitution be, and he shall not rejoice therein.
The wicked shall fear that other wicked folks will take their evil gains and they shall have much stress and worry.
20:19 Because he hath oppressed and hath forsaken the poor; because he hath violently taken away an house which he builded not; 20:20 Surely he shall not feel quietness in his belly, he shall not save of that which he desired. 20:21 There shall none of his meat [food] be left; therefore shall no man look for his goods.
God shall bring the wicked down, no matter how great or prosperous they are .
20:22 In the fulness of his sufficiency he shall be in straits: every hand of the wicked shall come upon him. 20:23 When he is about to fill his belly, God shall cast the fury of his wrath upon him, and shall rain it upon him while he is eating.
God shall allow the enemy to strike down the wicked as in the coming great tribulation of correction on the Church of God.
20:24 He shall flee from the iron [powerful] weapon, and the bow of steel shall strike him through.
The wicked shall be pierced through for their pride and compromising with the Word of God.
20:25 It is drawn, and cometh out of the body; yea, the glittering sword cometh out of his gall: terrors are upon him.
An uncontrolled unstoppable fire, shall sweep over the wicked. The wicked who still live shall suffer much.
20:26 All darkness shall be hid in his secret places: a fire not blown shall consume him; it shall go ill with him that is left in his tabernacle [body] .
Of a truth, this is the portion of the unrepentant brethren and Church Groups who refuse to repent of exalting traditions, men and organizations above the Word of God; who continue in Sabbath and High Day pollution and in their many other sins!
Almighty God shall judge us for iniquity and lukewarmness to live by his Word. Christ shall cast those not burning with zeal for his commandments out of his body and into great affliction in the hope that we will repent; for we have been judged and found lacking in the loyalty of Job!
Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Laodicea is HOT for their traditions, leaders and organizations; and COLD, devoid of zeal, for practical obedience to God’s Word; this mixture results in lukewarmness before Christ.
3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
We are arrogant and full of pride and no one can tell us anything; we are “know it alls”, not understanding how very little you really know and how spiritually blind and naked of righteousness we are before Christ.
3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Seek the true spiritual gold of God’s Word when our physical wealth is destroyed in the fire of tribulation: Seek the righteousness of zeal to live by every Word of God in sincere repentance, so that our shameful sins may be covered by the sacrifice of Christ and we may be clothed in godly righteousness. Seek the Spirit of God through zeal to live by every Word of God, so that our eyes may be opened to understanding the things of God.
3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
We will be rejected until we repent and turn back to seek our God; because Christ loves us and needs to afflict the flesh to save the spirit for eternity.
3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
If we do repent and open our mind to Christ, keeping God’s commandments with righteous zeal; he will receive us and teach us of his ways.
3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
If we overcome our lukewarmness for the practical keeping of all of God’s commandments; if we will overcome the idolatry of exalting men, traditions and organizations above God and his law: then we shall be saved and rise up to sit with Christ in his government in the Kingdom of God.
23:1 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Job 20:27 The heaven shall reveal his iniquity; and the earth shall rise up against him.
Yet the wicked who compromise with God’s commandments shall be destroyed.
20:28 The increase of his house shall depart, and his goods shall flow away in the day of his wrath.
20:29 This is the portion of a wicked man from God, and the heritage appointed unto him by God.
Job Answers Zophar
Job 21:1 But Job answered and said, 21:2 Hear diligently my speech, and let this be your consolations. 21:3 Suffer me that I may speak; and after that I have spoken, mock on.
Job asks the question, why do the righteous suffer and the wicked are blessed?
21:4 As for me, is my complaint to man? and if it were so, why should not my spirit be troubled? 21:5 Mark me, and be astonished, and lay your hand upon your mouth.
21:6 Even when I remember [the fate of the wicked] I am afraid, and trembling taketh hold on my flesh [so that I loath sin].
21:7 Wherefore do the wicked live, become [to an old age] old, yea, are mighty in power? 21:8 Their seed is established in their sight with them, and their offspring before their eyes.
21:9 Their houses are safe from fear, neither is the rod of God upon them. 21:10 Their bull gendereth [cattle reproduce], and faileth not; their cow calveth, and casteth not her calf. 21:11 They send forth their little ones like a flock, and their children dance.
The wicked rejoice and party in their sins, as they reject God’s commandments for their own ways.
21:12 They take the timbrel and harp, and rejoice at the sound of the organ. 21:13 They spend their days in wealth, and in a moment go down to the grave.
21:14 Therefore they say unto God, Depart from us; for we desire not the knowledge of thy ways. 21:15 What is the Almighty, that we should serve him? and what profit should we have, if we pray unto him?
Job will have NO part in wickedness and sin.
21:16 Lo, their good is not in their hand [their ultimate end is not under their control]: the counsel of the wicked is far from me.
Job knows that the end of the commandment breaker is their destruction. It is vital to look at the end of the matter and not at the middle of it.
21:17 How oft is the candle of the wicked put out! and how oft cometh their destruction upon them! God distributeth sorrows in his anger. 21:18 They are as stubble before the wind, and as chaff that the storm carrieth away. 21:19 God layeth up his iniquity [remembers] for his children [if they do not repent]: he rewardeth him, and he [the wicked shall know the destruction of God for their sins] shall know it. 21:20 His eyes shall see his destruction, and he shall drink of the wrath of the Almighty.
The wicked have their pleasure now; and shall have no pleasure in the grave; while the righteous shall inherit eternal life.
21:21 For what pleasure hath he in his house [grave] after him, when the number of his months is cut off in the midst?
Is any man as wise as God? Can any man teach God any thing?
21:22 Shall any teach God knowledge? seeing he judgeth those that are high.
Both the wealthy and the afflicted shall die and lie in the grave.
21:23 One dieth in his full strength, being wholly at ease and quiet. 21:24 His breasts are full of milk, and his bones are moistened with marrow.
21:25 And another dieth in the bitterness of his soul, and never eateth with pleasure.
21:26 They shall lie down alike in the dust, and the worms shall cover them.
21:27 Behold, I know your thoughts, and the devices which ye wrongfully imagine against me.
The wicked who compromise with or break God’s Word, may be exalted for a time, to TEST the called out; but their judgment is reserved for God’s day to judge and to destroy them in the fire.
21:28 For ye say, Where is the house of the prince? and where are the dwelling places of the wicked? 21:29 Have ye not asked them that go by the way? and do ye not know their tokens, 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.
Even if no man can resist a wicked ruler; in the end he shall still die and lay in his grave
21:31 Who shall declare his way to his face? and who shall repay himwhat he hath done? 21:32 Yet shall he be brought to the grave, and shall remain in the tomb.
21:33 The clods [dirt, the grave shall give rest] of the valley shall be sweet unto him, and every [all people shall die alike] man shall draw after him, as there are innumerable before him.
Why do you seek to comfort me by counting me among the wicked?
21:34 How then comfort ye me in vain, seeing in your answers there remaineth falsehood?