Bob Thiel News: Bob jumps ahead of UCG in apostatizing into the Catholic / Evangelical: “Its all about love!”
Bob says rules are important, but love is the most important thing. Of course without defining love as the keeping of all the commandments [rules] of God! Bob is now obviously tailoring his message to the mainstream “Christian”.
If we assume that Bob was ever really with it; this is another example of the great falling away from God and his commandments as prophesied by Jude!
Using “Grace - Love” to make God’s commandments of no effect!
Bob, who has never shown any kind of love himself; is now on the “love-love” charismatic bandwagon. The Philadelphia remnant: it is really all about love
Thiel is basing his opinion that he is a prophet and possibly an apostle; on Byzantine and Roman Catholic writings. See Bob Thiel’s explanation of leaving LCG. If you read this incredible piece you will see that Bob regards himself as a prophet and one or both of God’s two prophets.
I expect that means, that when the REAL two are set up, there may be some kind of confrontation with false prophet Thiel; so that God will reveal who his chosen one’s really are. That would be a definite point of decision as to who God wants us to believe; false prophet Thiel or God’s chosen two.
Imagine that!!! Bob Thiel considering himself a prophet because of his “understanding” of certain Catholic-Orthodox writings. He is God’s chosen one [or two] because the great whore says so! What a twisted mind.
The wonder is that he managed to deceive LCG leaders for so long.
Solomon considers the state of man, between the oppressed and the oppressors.
4:1 So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun: and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter; and on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter.
It is better to be dead than to be oppressed and without relief.
4:2 Wherefore I praised the dead which are already dead more than the living which are yet alive.
The person who has not seen oppression or been an oppressor, is blessed to have been saved from exposure to such evil.
4:3 Yea, better is he [who has never seen evil and oppression] than both they [the opressed and the oppressor], [better is the one who has not yet been born or seen such evil] which hath not yet been, who hath not seen the evil work that is done under the sun.
Solomon now considers the labours of men. Great and good accomplishments that make men famous, are pointless without God, because in the end they will come to nothing.
4:4 Again, I considered all travail [work, labour, trials], and every right work, that for this a man is envied of his neighbour. This is also vanity and vexation of spirit.
Yet, it is foolishness to be lazy and do nothing.
4:5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.
It is better to have little, accompanied by peace and peace of mind; than to have much and be in indeterminable strife and stress.
4:6 Better is an handful with quietness, than both the hands full with travail and vexation of spirit.
4:7 Then I returned, and I saw vanity under the sun.
Greed for physical wealth is a sore and heavy burden, working men to death; and has no reward for all perishes in the end.
4:8 There is one alone, and there is not a second; yea, he hath neither child nor brother: yet is there no end of all his labour; neither is his eye satisfied with riches; neither saith he, For whom do I labour, and bereave my soul of good? This is also vanity, yea, it is a sore travail.
It is better to work together wih others.
4:9 Two are better than one; because they have a good reward for their labour. 4:10 For if they fall, the one will lift up his fellow: but woe to him that is alone when he falleth; for he hath not another to help him up.
4:11 Again, if two lie together, then they have heat: but how can one be warm alone? 4:12 And if one prevail against him, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken.
The following is especially true spiritually, for teh COG groups are now full of old and foolish rulers who will not be admonished, while the kingdom of God shall be filled with the wisdom of faithful obedient children.
Mat 18:2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
4:13 Better is a poor and a wise child than an old and foolish king, who will no more be admonished.
The foolish [commandment breaking] ruler is foolish and imprisoned by wickedness, all his subjects will suffer for his wickedness. Again this is especially true in the COG Groups who are led by proud and foolish commandment breakers; and do as they think right, instead of as God commands.
4:14 For out of prison he cometh to reign; whereas also he that is born in his kingdom becometh poor.
The righteous obedient child shall grow up to take the ruler-ship from the foolish leader.
4:15 I considered all the living which walk under the sun, with the second child that shall stand up in his stead.
It is foolishness, not to rejoice in God and his commandments; for the physical works of men shall not be long remembered. The accomplishments of the mighty shall not long be remembered after their death.
4:16 There is no end of all the people, even of all that have been before them: they also that come after shall not rejoice in him. Surely this also is vanity and vexation of spirit.
Seek out the wisdom of God in his word; rather than to teach what we do not really know and understand. the student should study and not teach until he is fully and properly prepared in his studies by inspiration of God.
Be very careful in your prayers and petitions to God. It is vanity and foolishness to pray for an hour each day HWA style, just to waste God’s time with much speaking. Make your prayers sincere and from the heart, and do not engage in empty ramblings to put in time. Better is a prayer of three minutes from the heart, than hours of empty words.
5:1 Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of God, and be more ready to hear, than to give the sacrifice of fools: for they consider not that they do evil. 5:2 Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few. 5:3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business [an active mind] ; and a fool’s voice is known by multitude of words.
5:4 When thou vowest a vow unto God, defer not to pay it; for he hath no pleasure in fools: pay that which thou hast vowed. 5:5 Better is it that thou shouldest not vow, than that thou shouldest vow and not pay.
Do not make promises to God, lest you fail to keep them, for if you make a promise to God, Satan will immediately work to make keeping your word a heavy burden to you. Instead fear God and do HIS will, making no promises to God except for your baptismal marriage commitment.
5:6 Suffer not thy mouth to cause thy flesh to sin; neither say thou before the angel, that it was an error: wherefore should God be angry at thy voice, and destroy the work of thine hands? 5:7 For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear thou God.
You oppressors of the flock; you shall be judged of God.
5:8 If thou seest the oppression of the poor, and violent perverting of judgment and justice in a province, marvel not at the matter: for he that is higher than the highest regardeth; and there be higher than they [higher than the evil doer] .
All things come out of the earth that God has made for humanity. Therefore all that humanity has, is a gift of God without which we could not even exist.
5:9 Moreover the profit of the earth is for all: the king himself is served by the field.
No matter what physical thing man desires, when he has achieved it; he will not be satisfied with it. for physical things are not of any real value; only the spiritual is satisfying and everlasting.
5:10 He that loveth silver shall not be satisfied with silver; nor he that loveth abundance with increase: this is also vanity.
What is the point of acquiring more than we can use; except to help others. Let the rich be generous to the poor and they will see treasures laid up for them in heaven.
5:11 When goods increase, they are increased that eat them: and what good is there to the owners thereof, saving the beholding of them with their eyes? 5:12 The sleep of a labouring man is sweet, whether he eat little or much: but the abundance of the rich will not suffer him to sleep.
5:13 There is a sore evil which I have seen under the sun, namely, riches kept for the owners thereof to their hurt. 5:14 But those riches perish by evil travail: and he begetteth a son, and there is nothing in his hand [nothing laid up for him in heaven when he dies].
Physical wealth is of no real lasting value, only the spiritual has lasting value. Those who seek the pleasures and wealth of this world shall die and have nothing laid up in heaven for themselves. it is better to do good and keep God’s commandments always, then to lust after worldliness.
5:15 As he came forth of his mother’s womb, naked shall he return to go as he came, and shall take nothing of his labour, which he may carry away in his hand. 5:16 And this also is a sore evil, that in all points as he came, so shall he go: and what profit hath he that hath laboured for the wind?5:17 All his days also he eateth in darkness, and he hath much sorrow and wrath with his sickness.
Enjoy life and help others as God blesses you; but do not set your heart on ungodly lusts and pleasures.
5:18 Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God giveth him: for it is his portion.
Let us use what God has given us for godly purposes and keep his commandments always.
5:19 Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God. 5:20 For he shall not much remember the days of his life; because God answereth him in the joy of his heart.
It is a sore burden to work hard and then have one’s reward taken by another; in usury and taxes, or by fraud or theft, or by cunning words.
6:1 There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: 6:2 A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease.
If a man work hard all his life and enjoy none of it, and if he has not laid up a reward in heaven; it is a great evil.
6:3 If a man beget an hundred children, and live many years, so that the days of his years be many, and his soul be not filled with good, and also that he have no burial; I say, that an untimely [miscarried] birth is better than he. 6:4 For he cometh in with vanity, and departeth in darkness, and his name shall be covered with darkness. 6:5 Moreover he [that has not been born being miscarried and] hath not seen the sun, nor known any thing: this hath more rest than the other.
If a man is rich in physical things, and not knowing God or keeping his commandments, lives for a thousand years; he will still die; the physically rich, or carnally wise; shall still die, like the fool.
The ONLY things that has any real lasting value, are the commandments and teachings of God and our relationship with the Father and the Son!
6:6 Yea, though he live a thousand years twice told, yet hath he seen no [true good thing] good: do not all go to one place? 6:7 All the labour of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
6:8 For what hath the wise more than the fool? what hath the poor, that knoweth to walk before the living?
It is better to have then to desire and not have.
6:9 Better is the sight of the eyes than the wandering of the desire: this is also vanity and vexation of spirit.
Man cannot contend with God; it is better to keep God’s words and ways.
6:10 That which hath been is named already, and it is known that it is man: neither may he contend with him that is mightier than he.
The day of death of the righteous, is in conscious thought, the day of his birth into the Family of God, therefore it is better than the beginning of his life and physical sorrows at his physical birth. The same is true of the unconverted, for they shall have a new life in the main harvest into the Family of God.
6:11 Seeing there be many things that increase vanity, what is man the better? 6:12 For who knoweth what is good for man in this life, all the days of his vain life which he spendeth as a shadow? for who can tell a man what shall be after him under the sun? [Only God!]